I like that you can't see the audience. That's how it is a a club. Besides, it's free and fun. Good talent mixed with developing comics and the host is a peach.
I used to like this mic, but the sign up system has been incredibly unfair and disorganized. I've gotten there several times well before 7PM, and the list will already be full. Apparently, the host doesn't even show up until later in the night, so a group of friends who frequents the mic will just make their own sign up list and everybody who actually shows up at 7 (the sign up time) is forced to go 17th or later. Usually you'll wait around two hours, an then she cuts your time to fit you in and by then the whole audience has gone home. . I'd say it's a fluke, but it happens EVERY WEEK. Don't think I'll be going back here anytime soon.
Oh wow, I thought that kinda stuff only happened to me?! That is the reason why I stopped going their and started my own mic. It is WAY to many cliques
Same thing happened to me! Got there at 6:45 and the list was already full and host wasn't even there. Haven't been back since. Too bad, because it seems like a fun show when you can get up early enough.
What does poor organization on the part of the host have to do with whether or not someone is funny? Maybe the host should get there early. Perhaps she isn't funny enough to get there early?
Anybody who doesn't like this open mic is an asshole and a lousy comic. The host is hot and hillarious. Everybody who does this mic is a pro and they all come at 6PM to sign up. That's dedication! Don't come if you aren't funny. Don't come if you feel like you can just sign up whenever you want. Maybe you would have friends if you got here and introduced yourself to real comics. This is the only mic worth doing on tuesdays so just get here early shitbag.
Good lord. It's an open mic...not a friggin family member! JESUS. Some people like certain mics and some dont. Its not a matter of pros or ams. This mic is usually super packed and time is usually cut to 3 minutes. My personal preference..not to wait 2 hours for 3 minutes. But it is just that...a preference.
So apparently if you don't like this mic you are an asshole and a lousy comic. Well, I rate this mic as "OK" which I guess makes me merely disagreeable and a mediocre comic.
The comments on this mic are left over from the mic that came before it at the same location. They should really be deleted. Since Robert Dean has taken over, this is a really good mic that gets packed but still runs smoothly. Comics range from seasoned to brand new. Definitely worth checking out.
Why would anybody give themselves the title of an "open mic pro"? If you were any good, or good enough to consider yourself "pro", you would make the logical transition into clubs/actual gigs. HAHA...pro...
Robert Dean doesn't deserve any better lip service for this mic, and the gripes amongst the nay sayers are true. Here's everything that's wrong with this mic: 1. Comic selection is obviously contrived, and not at all random. More experienced, well seasoned comics preside at the top of the list, no matter if they have shown considerably late. This is true with most mics, but some are more fair than others. 2. Two and a half minutes is not enough time to hash out more than 2 jokes, which negates the thirty minutes or more that most people have to travel to and from this mic which is out of the way. 3. Some of the comics hang out in the back and talk, while the more polite comics pretend not to be bothered by it, but everyone hears YOU! 4. The vibe sucks generally. Comic nerds with self-effacing humor reign supreme, so if you want to go have a good shit on yourself time, then have at it!
Robert runs a great mic where he gets everyone up with a certain amount of time before the next show is up. He manages to keep the flow going and barely does that much time.
Do you think you should get 30 minutes because that's how far you traveled? Why don't we just invite all of Long Island out for them to do each 45 minute sets seems fair that they traveled all this way to do their worst material. You most likely didn't walk here you took public transportation and sat, I'd quit your bitching.
You can definitely hash out more jokes in 2 and a half minutes if you edit your material, that's if it's even worth editing.
I take it you've never worked a club before, get used to it that's what people do in shows, you think every person who busy a ticket to any event is quite, just behaviors in our society that even the CK's, Oswalts, Rocks still deal with. You can gain others attention by being funny or at least attempting to and writing consistently. No one wants to hear that joke that is subpar every day.
@Micheal Shawki: Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Your point is totally irrelevant. First off, the dude has a point. 2 minutes is not long enough to hash out your material. The shortest sets at any club are 5-6 minutes. If the open mic was open to musicians, you'd be cutting people off mid-song.
Comics should have the motherfucking respect to other goddamn comics to shut the fuck up, and also to have a fair selection process of who gets on stage.
If YOU have ever done a show, I'm sure you had no balls to tell people to shut the hell up while you tell jokes, and possibly even make it funny. Only a bitch ass comic cannot command the crowd's attention. Bitch assess and un-funny hacks.
IF you love this open mic, stick around. You'll hate it soon enough.
ALSO RE: "Why would anybody give themselves the title of an "open mic pro"? If you were any good, or good enough to consider yourself "pro", you would make the logical transition into clubs/actual gigs. HAHA...pro..."
I have to agree with this person, and I know exactly what asshole comic you are referring to. Fuck that dude, FOR REAL.
I don't know where to start from the misspelling of my first name which I think is much easier to spell then yours; to asking yourself a question about a statement you made earlier in these postings (not you well it's easier putting your name behind something you believe and are not ashamed of it's association with your name.
How much time do you need to be funny. Even if you're doing a story, act out or just riffing you should be having laughs constantly, if you can't build that up soon (meaning seconds not minutes) well then you're definitely in the wrong place and just wasting everyone's time. You're obviously not going to want to put any effort in to the craft and are willing to just judge people without even knowing anything about them. I take it you haven't been doing this long and haven't been to a variety of open mics that truly exist. None which will cater to your utopia. You know I wish I could ride a train in perfect peace without any fear of anything bad, violent, or awkward occurring but guess what that's life. Comics are going to talk but why would imagine it be ill towards yourself, or even bad at all they maybe saying this guy is good or not even talking comedy at all so what. What's that saying what doesn't kill you only makes you (can I get a what what) stronger.
This mic actually was the first mic my friend and I did the very first night we had moved to the city after driving for 2 days. I've seen it go through now it's 3rd host and this place has consistently been a terrific place that's not only FREE, but you get to see a lot of peers performing as well. 2 minutes in front of usually 30 other people and at times real people. You know a place I went to that was the most horrific open mic I went to and still performed at that a lot of other guys have stories about I'm sure Maui Tacos. No real speaker system it was using a child's karaoke machine which I'm pretty sure the speaker was blown out on, with a stage that was a palette that my foot got stuck in mid performance, Now that's a shitty open mic. I think everyone at the Creek will not miss your presence there. You know New York is a tough city and scene over saturated with comics but it's those who do these 2-3 minute open mics and consistently make people laugh that succeed. Bitch all you want it's not going to make you any better in the craft, and probably just another excuse for failure. Write some more material more you, edit it and who knows maybe you'll see a different reaction.
By the way you know you probably could start using your real name anyways, it's not like anyone knows you.
Who is this Anonymous MIC HATER? I have said this before, and I will say it again: YOU ARE NOT A COMEDIAN IF YOU HIDE BEHIND AN ANONYMOUS PROFILE. A REAL COMIC IS NOT A COWARD, AND WILL SAY IT HOW IT IS NO MATTER WHAT THE FUCK OTHER PEOPLE THINK. THEREFORE YOU ARE A COWARD, NOT A COMIC AND YOU'RE ALSO A HYPERSENSITIVE FUCKING PUSSY.
I've only met Robert Dean a few times, but I have been to this mic IT WAS FUCKING GOOD.
IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK SHIT LET YOUR NAME BE KNOWN. but don't worry, nobody wants to know your name and you will never BE KNOWN because you're a coward.
Leo Martin, if a real comic is someone stands up and tells it like it is with wreckless disregard to peoples feelings, then perhaps you could substatiate your claim to being a real comic by posting on here all the NYC comics you think suck and why. List as many as you can and please be as detailed as possible.
FWIW, I think posting anonymously is only cowardly if someone is personally dissing someone BY NAME. I don't think anyone has any moral or ethical obligation to identify themselves SPECIFICALLY when they are only talking shit IN GENERAL.
I've read through the relevant posts, I haven't seen anything that has criticized Robert Dean as a host or a comic. The criticisms seem to hinge mostly on the format and the audience.
The closest to a diss on Dean here is mentioning that the draw for this mic is rigged. Which isn't really shit-talking so much as it is stating an undeniable, irrefutable and incontrovertible fact. If the draw for this mic is not rigged then some of the comics must have been Mother Theresa in a past life to have the kind of good karma that allows them choice spots week in and week out.
I personally do not like rigged draws for reasons too numerous to mention. But I've had talks with people who sincerely believe that rigged draws are actually the ideal way to run a mic. They say its a happy medium between the chaos of a purely random draw and "first come, first serve" which inevitably results in people having to show up two hours early for a good spot. Plus, they say giving preferential treatment encourages good comics to show up and that makes for an overall more enjoyable experience for everyone.
I have my counter-arguements but I'm not going to list them here. It's Dean's mic and he can do as he pleases. My point is that while, yes, the draw is rigged, I dont think Dean's doing it to be an asshole (he really is a nice guy).
The other criticisms... The 2 minute format is indeed difficult. Mostly because if a crowd does not already know you, it usually takes at least 2 minutes just to win them over. Which is one of the reasons why better-known comics tend to do disproportionately well at 2 minute mics (ie they've already won the crowd over). But whatever criticism, the fact remains that due to time constraints and the popularity of this mic the 2 minute format is a necessity. It is what it is, folks. You can always choose not to go.
Criticism of the audience is for the most part valid, IMO. It is loud. I have no problem tuning it out but I can see how it might bother other people. I blame the tobacco industry for making a product so addictive that people can not help but constantly walk in and out of Robert Dean's mic so that they can enjoy that smooth and refreshing taste of Marlboro. Damn you, Phillip Morris!!!
I would describe this mic as Woodshed Lite. If you think the Woodshed is great, then you will probably think this mic is pretty good. If you utterly dispise the Woodshed, then you will merely dislike this mic.
Although I have flaws like the rest of us I am still not ashamed of my name and what I stand up for unfortunately the irony in your comment anonymous is that you would be the biggest unknown pussy to post on here.
Great mic, great host, great venue
Good joke equals good times which happen often at this mic.
I have been on the open mic scene for two weeks and have seen Robert Dean host several open mics and even had to chance to see him work on his set at an open mic he wasn't hosting. Dean is one of the nicest comics out there, he has to be the poor guy is Polish and im sure he in some way is trying to diffuse and prevent any Polish jokes at his expense.
With that said, I don't even really know Dean, but don't think you should project onto him--or other open mics--your own feelings of inadequacy, we all have them as Comix. The first two minutes should at least allow you to muster up some kind of premise and setup that is worthy of a punchline. We are Comics, not short story tellers, albeit we do tell short stories we should strive to not be essayists.
2. RE:"substatiate your claim to being a real comic by posting on here all the NYC comics you think suck and why." UM. WHAT? I don't give a fuck if comics suck or not, but if I did, then I wouldn't anonymously post shit about them. ONE TIME I SAW BILL O'REILLY IN REAL LIFE IN THE SUBWAY AND I SHOUTED, "HEYYYY BILLLL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUU!" (AND POINTED AT MY DICK) AT WHICH POINT 90% OF ALL THE FUCKING PEOPLE THERE CLAPPED AND HOOTED.
THATS THE FUCK WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. And Bill O'Reilly deserves it because he's a DOUCHEBAG idiot who is famous. If he was an Open mic comedian testing out his new facebook jokes I wouldn't give a fuck about him because I HAVE A FUCKING LIFE. AND I HAVE BALLS.
seriously tho this thread is FUCKIN NUTS WHAT THE FUCK. ive never been to this FUCKIN MIC but judging by all the crazy comments i may have to go CHECK IT THE FUCK OUT. (i love the open mic veteran of 2 weeks chiming in with his advise on becoming a successful comedian "EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT" lol this thread is great)
This is my favorite mic because there is free lemonade. What you have to do is get a cup of free water from the back and then pour in a "Crystal Light: 5 Calorie Flavor Packet". It makes this mic the best.
Eventually, I'm thinking about bringing extra packets and then setting up my own lemonade business in the back of this mic.
I didn't realize until I read this thread that Robert Dean really has one of those names where you always say his first and last name...so that's pretty cool--
I won't say anything else for fear anonymous knows me and is gonna call me fat or something
Ok. Sign up starts at around 5. people chill in this lounge till 6. They even had these water coolers in the theater "hall" and in the lounge. Really cool crowd. 3 minutes a pop. performing here made me wanna try different approaches to stand up. Very eye-opening.
I HATE THIS MIC and I HATE EVERY COMIC THERE!!! Just because I stole a couple of jokes a couple of times does not make me a hack! You know what a hack is? A guy who consistently does unfunny material about their mom dying (I'm not naming names but you know who I mean) or a girl who won't talk about anything but gay rights! (get over it! you lost!) Every time I get on stage, I am funny. I don't "test out" material in front of people... I bring a show EVERY TIME! Sometimes I do material that other comics have already "tested out" - Point it, I use it, and I kill, I do some of my own material too assholes! So, there's no reason to kick me out of your stupid, pretentious clique... I'm already in a stupid, pretentious, HIGHLY ELITE clique. It consists of ME. Just me. And it'll be "just me" on television some day while you guys eat dick with your "journals on stage."
I'll admit that I never took debate class in high school. But as far as I know "If you don't like us, you must be a joke-stealing hack" is not a defense against accusations of elitism.
Unless it's some super-advanced senior year stuff. Some ultra-reverse-psychology shit of Chewbacca Defense caliber sophistication. Let me just say it's a new one.
Unless LeTrav is short for Le Travel-sized watermelon (which doesn't exist but I wish it did) I wasn't talking to you, I wasn't talking ABOUT you, and I sure as shit wasn't doing "Chewing Tobacco Defense Calendar Sophie's choice" or whatever the FUCK you're talking about. Do me a favor, and do what yo mama SHOULD have done...live a good life, have fun, raise a nice family, be there for her children (or whatever your mom did, I'm sure she's a very nice person).
Ha ha. I really do want $20 but it'll just ruin everything if I tell you who I am because I'm not really that guy, nothing I said was true, I don't hate this mic and I've never stolen a joke, in fact, if you perform around NYC we've probably crossed paths. But as Anonymous, I can Troll this site for my own pleasure. That's worth more to me than $20. I CAN say that I'm not Leo Martin.
You can call me a hack. You can call me a hater. But there's not a person alive who can call me a phony, a hypocrite, or a coward. Your move, "Anonymous"...
Most of the mics at the creek are a waste of time for any comic who just wants to got to an open mic and work out. This is the incubator atmosphere Bill Burr was talking about. Te Deans list is by far the greatest representation of hipsterdom at it's very finest.
Wow. I hate to use the name "anonymous" now, so I"ll have to clarify and say I'm not the other anonymous who seems to be a self-absorbed prick. I"m just not leaving my name because I do perform around town and know how it is if you leave a neg comment; which I'm about to. Maybe not negative, more of "constructive feedback". This mic is VERY unfriendly to outsiders. It appears as tho the main vibe here is "hipster douchebag". I went one time and it was chilling the reception I got. I went back a 2nd time thinking perhaps the 1st time was a fluke. It wasn't. I'd suggest realizing that we all have the same goals, and playing that "I won't laugh because I don't know you" schtick is way played out. I purposes did a ringer joke that always gets a huge laugh, and nothin. I don't brag, I'm just saying that was proof enough to me that it wasn't my material, it was the attitude of the room. I won't be back and I do tell other comics to avoid this room. Perhaps you should clean house with some of the assholes you have in there and bring in some new blood. Actually, please don't. They'll have to go somewehere else, and we don't need another infected room.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with talking shit on mics anonymously. I see no problem with anonymously talking shit on the scene in general.
But if someone is going to target another comic specifically, they need to identify themselves specifically. That's all.
Basically, there are too many people walking away from these kinds of mics* saying the exact same thing, making the same complaints, making the same observations for the criticism to be completely without merit.
Sure, some of them prolly suck. Sure, some of them had unrealistic expectations. But we're talking about dozen upon dozens upon dozens of people, most of whom have never met each other, all making the same complaint about these mics.
It can't just all be in their heads.
And yet, that is exactly what some people would like you to believe. That 100% of these guys are bitter. That 0% of these guys are funny. That they're are all bitter and it's all in their head. If you don't like this mic, "you just don't get it, maaaaaaan."
So you are trying to say there arent dozens and dozens of shitty open micers who have no place doing comedy in the first place, because if that is what you are saying sir, you are sorely misguided.
If you're a pro comic stay away from here. Same thing for pro jocks. The soft bellies and bottoms of these doughy "men" is deplorable. PROS NEED NOT APPLY.
This is one of the few good mics in the city that is free, and sometimes there's audience. Definitely worth checking out.
ReplyDeleteFun mic. Well run. Very professional.
ReplyDeleteGreat mic--just wish the lighting didn't make it impossible to see the audience.
ReplyDeleteI like that you can't see the audience. That's how it is a a club. Besides, it's free and fun. Good talent mixed with developing comics and the host is a peach.
ReplyDeleteI used to like this mic, but the sign up system has been incredibly unfair and disorganized. I've gotten there several times well before 7PM, and the list will already be full. Apparently, the host doesn't even show up until later in the night, so a group of friends who frequents the mic will just make their own sign up list and everybody who actually shows up at 7 (the sign up time) is forced to go 17th or later. Usually you'll wait around two hours, an then she cuts your time to fit you in and by then the whole audience has gone home. . I'd say it's a fluke, but it happens EVERY WEEK. Don't think I'll be going back here anytime soon.
ReplyDeleteOh wow, I thought that kinda stuff only happened to me?! That is the reason why I stopped going their and started my own mic. It is WAY to many cliques
DeleteSame thing happened to me! Got there at 6:45 and the list was already full and host wasn't even there. Haven't been back since. Too bad, because it seems like a fun show when you can get up early enough.
ReplyDeleteThis is an awesome show. Maybe you just aren't funny enough. Besides, if you want to get on, maybe you should, ummmm, just get there early?
ReplyDeleteWhat does poor organization on the part of the host have to do with whether or not someone is funny? Maybe the host should get there early. Perhaps she isn't funny enough to get there early?
ReplyDeleteEvery time I went there I've got on stage with a good audience and only because I got there early idiot
ReplyDeleteAnybody who doesn't like this open mic is an asshole and a lousy comic. The host is hot and hillarious. Everybody who does this mic is a pro and they all come at 6PM to sign up. That's dedication! Don't come if you aren't funny. Don't come if you feel like you can just sign up whenever you want. Maybe you would have friends if you got here and introduced yourself to real comics. This is the only mic worth doing on tuesdays so just get here early shitbag.
ReplyDeleteSome people work a day job, and expect sign ups to be conducted fairly, shitbag.
DeleteWho brought the 10 year old in here ^
ReplyDeleteWhat is a shitbag? That guy or gal that wrote that is obviously a pro
ReplyDeleteGood lord. It's an open mic...not a friggin family member! JESUS. Some people like certain mics and some dont. Its not a matter of pros or ams. This mic is usually super packed and time is usually cut to 3 minutes. My personal preference..not to wait 2 hours for 3 minutes. But it is just that...a preference.
ReplyDeleteSo apparently if you don't like this mic you are an asshole and a lousy comic. Well, I rate this mic as "OK" which I guess makes me merely disagreeable and a mediocre comic.
ReplyDeleteThe comments on this mic are left over from the mic that came before it at the same location. They should really be deleted. Since Robert Dean has taken over, this is a really good mic that gets packed but still runs smoothly. Comics range from seasoned to brand new. Definitely worth checking out.
ReplyDeleteWhy would anybody give themselves the title of an "open mic pro"? If you were any good, or good enough to consider yourself "pro", you would make the logical transition into clubs/actual gigs. HAHA...pro...
ReplyDeleteRobert Dean doesn't deserve any better lip service for this mic, and the gripes amongst the nay sayers are true. Here's everything that's wrong with this mic:
ReplyDelete1. Comic selection is obviously contrived, and not at all random. More experienced, well seasoned comics preside at the top of the list, no matter if they have shown considerably late. This is true with most mics, but some are more fair than others.
2. Two and a half minutes is not enough time to hash out more than 2 jokes, which negates the thirty minutes or more that most people have to travel to and from this mic which is out of the way.
3. Some of the comics hang out in the back and talk, while the more polite comics pretend not to be bothered by it, but everyone hears YOU!
4. The vibe sucks generally. Comic nerds with self-effacing humor reign supreme, so if you want to go have a good shit on yourself time, then have at it!
Robert runs a great mic where he gets everyone up with a certain amount of time before the next show is up. He manages to keep the flow going and barely does that much time.
ReplyDeleteDo you think you should get 30 minutes because that's how far you traveled? Why don't we just invite all of Long Island out for them to do each 45 minute sets seems fair that they traveled all this way to do their worst material. You most likely didn't walk here you took public transportation and sat, I'd quit your bitching.
You can definitely hash out more jokes in 2 and a half minutes if you edit your material, that's if it's even worth editing.
I take it you've never worked a club before, get used to it that's what people do in shows, you think every person who busy a ticket to any event is quite, just behaviors in our society that even the CK's, Oswalts, Rocks still deal with. You can gain others attention by being funny or at least attempting to and writing consistently. No one wants to hear that joke that is subpar every day.
@Micheal Shawki: Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Your point is totally irrelevant. First off, the dude has a point. 2 minutes is not long enough to hash out your material. The shortest sets at any club are 5-6 minutes. If the open mic was open to musicians, you'd be cutting people off mid-song.
ReplyDeleteComics should have the motherfucking respect to other goddamn comics to shut the fuck up, and also to have a fair selection process of who gets on stage.
If YOU have ever done a show, I'm sure you had no balls to tell people to shut the hell up while you tell jokes, and possibly even make it funny. Only a bitch ass comic cannot command the crowd's attention. Bitch assess and un-funny hacks.
IF you love this open mic, stick around. You'll hate it soon enough.
ALSO RE: "Why would anybody give themselves the title of an "open mic pro"? If you were any good, or good enough to consider yourself "pro", you would make the logical transition into clubs/actual gigs. HAHA...pro..."
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with this person, and I know exactly what asshole comic you are referring to. Fuck that dude, FOR REAL.
Hey Anonymous
ReplyDeleteI don't know where to start from the misspelling of my first name which I think is much easier to spell then yours; to asking yourself a question about a statement you made earlier in these postings (not you well it's easier putting your name behind something you believe and are not ashamed of it's association with your name.
How much time do you need to be funny. Even if you're doing a story, act out or just riffing you should be having laughs constantly, if you can't build that up soon (meaning seconds not minutes) well then you're definitely in the wrong place and just wasting everyone's time. You're obviously not going to want to put any effort in to the craft and are willing to just judge people without even knowing anything about them. I take it you haven't been doing this long and haven't been to a variety of open mics that truly exist. None which will cater to your utopia. You know I wish I could ride a train in perfect peace without any fear of anything bad, violent, or awkward occurring but guess what that's life. Comics are going to talk but why would imagine it be ill towards yourself, or even bad at all they maybe saying this guy is good or not even talking comedy at all so what. What's that saying what doesn't kill you only makes you (can I get a what what) stronger.
This mic actually was the first mic my friend and I did the very first night we had moved to the city after driving for 2 days. I've seen it go through now it's 3rd host and this place has consistently been a terrific place that's not only FREE, but you get to see a lot of peers performing as well. 2 minutes in front of usually 30 other people and at times real people. You know a place I went to that was the most horrific open mic I went to and still performed at that a lot of other guys have stories about I'm sure Maui Tacos. No real speaker system it was using a child's karaoke machine which I'm pretty sure the speaker was blown out on, with a stage that was a palette that my foot got stuck in mid performance, Now that's a shitty open mic. I think everyone at the Creek will not miss your presence there. You know New York is a tough city and scene over saturated with comics but it's those who do these 2-3 minute open mics and consistently make people laugh that succeed. Bitch all you want it's not going to make you any better in the craft, and probably just another excuse for failure. Write some more material more you, edit it and who knows maybe you'll see a different reaction.
By the way you know you probably could start using your real name anyways, it's not like anyone knows you.
Michael Shawki is a fucking idiot. This mic is for fucking pussies.
ReplyDeleteIf "Anonymous" thinks he can do better than Robert Dean, show yourself. Maybe it's time you ran a mic...unless you're the fucking pussy.
ReplyDeleteWho is this Anonymous MIC HATER? I have said this before, and I will say it again: YOU ARE NOT A COMEDIAN IF YOU HIDE BEHIND AN ANONYMOUS PROFILE. A REAL COMIC IS NOT A COWARD, AND WILL SAY IT HOW IT IS NO MATTER WHAT THE FUCK OTHER PEOPLE THINK. THEREFORE YOU ARE A COWARD, NOT A COMIC AND YOU'RE ALSO A HYPERSENSITIVE FUCKING PUSSY.
ReplyDeleteI've only met Robert Dean a few times, but I have been to this mic IT WAS FUCKING GOOD.
IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK SHIT LET YOUR NAME BE KNOWN. but don't worry, nobody wants to know your name and you will never BE KNOWN because you're a coward.
LEO FUCKING MARTIN.
Oh, and ROBERT DEAN IS REALLY NICE. SO EAT A DICK.
ReplyDeleteLeo Martin, if a real comic is someone stands up and tells it like it is with wreckless disregard to peoples feelings, then perhaps you could substatiate your claim to being a real comic by posting on here all the NYC comics you think suck and why. List as many as you can and please be as detailed as possible.
ReplyDeleteFWIW, I think posting anonymously is only cowardly if someone is personally dissing someone BY NAME. I don't think anyone has any moral or ethical obligation to identify themselves SPECIFICALLY when they are only talking shit IN GENERAL.
I've read through the relevant posts, I haven't seen anything that has criticized Robert Dean as a host or a comic. The criticisms seem to hinge mostly on the format and the audience.
The closest to a diss on Dean here is mentioning that the draw for this mic is rigged. Which isn't really shit-talking so much as it is stating an undeniable, irrefutable and incontrovertible fact. If the draw for this mic is not rigged then some of the comics must have been Mother Theresa in a past life to have the kind of good karma that allows them choice spots week in and week out.
I personally do not like rigged draws for reasons too numerous to mention. But I've had talks with people who sincerely believe that rigged draws are actually the ideal way to run a mic. They say its a happy medium between the chaos of a purely random draw and "first come, first serve" which inevitably results in people having to show up two hours early for a good spot. Plus, they say giving preferential treatment encourages good comics to show up and that makes for an overall more enjoyable experience for everyone.
I have my counter-arguements but I'm not going to list them here. It's Dean's mic and he can do as he pleases. My point is that while, yes, the draw is rigged, I dont think Dean's doing it to be an asshole (he really is a nice guy).
The other criticisms...
The 2 minute format is indeed difficult. Mostly because if a crowd does not already know you, it usually takes at least 2 minutes just to win them over. Which is one of the reasons why better-known comics tend to do disproportionately well at 2 minute mics (ie they've already won the crowd over).
But whatever criticism, the fact remains that due to time constraints and the popularity of this mic the 2 minute format is a necessity. It is what it is, folks. You can always choose not to go.
Criticism of the audience is for the most part valid, IMO. It is loud. I have no problem tuning it out but I can see how it might bother other people. I blame the tobacco industry for making a product so addictive that people can not help but constantly walk in and out of Robert Dean's mic so that they can enjoy that smooth and refreshing taste of Marlboro. Damn you, Phillip Morris!!!
I would describe this mic as Woodshed Lite. If you think the Woodshed is great, then you will probably think this mic is pretty good. If you utterly dispise the Woodshed, then you will merely dislike this mic.
Although I have flaws like the rest of us I am still not ashamed of my name and what I stand up for unfortunately the irony in your comment anonymous is that you would be the biggest unknown pussy to post on here.
ReplyDeleteGreat mic, great host, great venue
Good joke equals good times which happen often at this mic.
I have been on the open mic scene for two weeks and have seen Robert Dean host several open mics and even had to chance to see him work on his set at an open mic he wasn't hosting. Dean is one of the nicest comics out there, he has to be the poor guy is Polish and im sure he in some way is trying to diffuse and prevent any Polish jokes at his expense.
ReplyDeleteWith that said, I don't even really know Dean, but don't think you should project onto him--or other open mics--your own feelings of inadequacy, we all have them as Comix. The first two minutes should at least allow you to muster up some kind of premise and setup that is worthy of a punchline. We are Comics, not short story tellers, albeit we do tell short stories we should strive to not be essayists.
rule of thumb: EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT!
@LeTrav:
ReplyDelete1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeqVeRknD5k&feature=related
2. RE:"substatiate your claim to being a real comic by posting on here all the NYC comics you think suck and why."
UM. WHAT? I don't give a fuck if comics suck or not, but if I did, then I wouldn't anonymously post shit about them.
ONE TIME I SAW BILL O'REILLY IN REAL LIFE IN THE SUBWAY AND I SHOUTED, "HEYYYY BILLLL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUU!" (AND POINTED AT MY DICK) AT WHICH POINT 90% OF ALL THE FUCKING PEOPLE THERE CLAPPED AND HOOTED.
THATS THE FUCK WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. And Bill O'Reilly deserves it because he's a DOUCHEBAG idiot who is famous. If he was an Open mic comedian testing out his new facebook jokes I wouldn't give a fuck about him because I HAVE A FUCKING LIFE.
AND I HAVE BALLS.
Starts at 6 PM now!
ReplyDeleteseriously tho this thread is FUCKIN NUTS WHAT THE FUCK. ive never been to this FUCKIN MIC but judging by all the crazy comments i may have to go CHECK IT THE FUCK OUT.
ReplyDelete(i love the open mic veteran of 2 weeks chiming in with his advise on becoming a successful comedian "EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT" lol this thread is great)
Joey Mcdevitt
6 PM 6 PM 6PM start! change the details on badslava
ReplyDeleteRobert Dean has a heart the size of a whale and the courage of six lions sewn together.
ReplyDeleteThis is my favorite mic because there is free lemonade. What you have to do is get a cup of free water from the back and then pour in a "Crystal Light: 5 Calorie Flavor Packet". It makes this mic the best.
ReplyDeleteEventually, I'm thinking about bringing extra packets and then setting up my own lemonade business in the back of this mic.
-John John Petco
I didn't realize until I read this thread that Robert Dean really has one of those names where you always say his first and last name...so that's pretty cool--
ReplyDeleteI won't say anything else for fear anonymous knows me and is gonna call me fat or something
Ok. Sign up starts at around 5. people chill in this lounge till 6. They even had these water coolers in the theater "hall" and in the lounge. Really cool crowd. 3 minutes a pop. performing here made me wanna try different approaches to stand up. Very eye-opening.
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I HATE THIS MIC and I HATE EVERY COMIC THERE!!! Just because I stole a couple of jokes a couple of times does not make me a hack! You know what a hack is? A guy who consistently does unfunny material about their mom dying (I'm not naming names but you know who I mean) or a girl who won't talk about anything but gay rights! (get over it! you lost!) Every time I get on stage, I am funny. I don't "test out" material in front of people... I bring a show EVERY TIME! Sometimes I do material that other comics have already "tested out" - Point it, I use it, and I kill, I do some of my own material too assholes! So, there's no reason to kick me out of your stupid, pretentious clique... I'm already in a stupid, pretentious, HIGHLY ELITE clique. It consists of ME. Just me. And it'll be "just me" on television some day while you guys eat dick with your "journals on stage."
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ReplyDeleteI'll admit that I never took debate class in high school. But as far as I know "If you don't like us, you must be a joke-stealing hack" is not a defense against accusations of elitism.
ReplyDeleteUnless it's some super-advanced senior year stuff. Some ultra-reverse-psychology shit of Chewbacca Defense caliber sophistication. Let me just say it's a new one.
Unless LeTrav is short for Le Travel-sized watermelon (which doesn't exist but I wish it did) I wasn't talking to you, I wasn't talking ABOUT you, and I sure as shit wasn't doing "Chewing Tobacco Defense Calendar Sophie's choice" or whatever the FUCK you're talking about. Do me a favor, and do what yo mama SHOULD have done...live a good life, have fun, raise a nice family, be there for her children (or whatever your mom did, I'm sure she's a very nice person).
ReplyDeleteForgive me. I thought your last post was ironic.
ReplyDeleteScottie Pippen has AIDS
ReplyDeleteHey Anonymous who HATES THIS MIC, if you reveal yourself, I will give you $20 bucks.
ReplyDeleteGonzalo you're an awful comic and only survive by the fact that you won't go away.
DeleteI am serious. I am obsessed with knowing more of your journey!
ReplyDeleteI'm Leo Martin, just wanted to start some shiot, biotch!
ReplyDeleteNow give me my 20 bucks
Can I change my mind about the $20 and instead buy you a beer next time I see you?
ReplyDeleteI hate this mic too
ReplyDeleteHa ha. I really do want $20 but it'll just ruin everything if I tell you who I am because I'm not really that guy, nothing I said was true, I don't hate this mic and I've never stolen a joke, in fact, if you perform around NYC we've probably crossed paths. But as Anonymous, I can Troll this site for my own pleasure. That's worth more to me than $20. I CAN say that I'm not Leo Martin.
ReplyDeleteAND I can post multiple comments that are seemingly from different people, much like the killer in the movie Fallen...
ReplyDeleteAnonymous should be your stage name cuz thats how you're gonna end up in comedy
ReplyDeleteoy vey.
ReplyDeleteI like this mic! Robert Dean is a great host, he has a lot of energy and is a nice guy.
ReplyDeletethis whole thing was amazing!
ReplyDeleteTravis LeBlanc is a hack wanna be comic, and a hater. Someone should punch him in his wrinkled pussy from 1920 and hand him a noose. DIE LEBLANC DIE!
ReplyDeleteAh how we mock what we do not understand.
ReplyDeleteYou can call me a hack. You can call me a hater. But there's not a person alive who can call me a phony, a hypocrite, or a coward. Your move, "Anonymous"...
Most of the mics at the creek are a waste of time for any comic who just wants to got to an open mic and work out. This is the incubator atmosphere Bill Burr was talking about. Te Deans list is by far the greatest representation of hipsterdom at it's very finest.
ReplyDeleteWow. I hate to use the name "anonymous" now, so I"ll have to clarify and say I'm not the other anonymous who seems to be a self-absorbed prick. I"m just not leaving my name because I do perform around town and know how it is if you leave a neg comment; which I'm about to. Maybe not negative, more of "constructive feedback".
ReplyDeleteThis mic is VERY unfriendly to outsiders. It appears as tho the main vibe here is "hipster douchebag". I went one time and it was chilling the reception I got. I went back a 2nd time thinking perhaps the 1st time was a fluke. It wasn't. I'd suggest realizing that we all have the same goals, and playing that "I won't laugh because I don't know you" schtick is way played out. I purposes did a ringer joke that always gets a huge laugh, and nothin. I don't brag, I'm just saying that was proof enough to me that it wasn't my material, it was the attitude of the room. I won't be back and I do tell other comics to avoid this room. Perhaps you should clean house with some of the assholes you have in there and bring in some new blood. Actually, please don't. They'll have to go somewehere else, and we don't need another infected room.
To the guy above.
ReplyDeleteI see absolutely nothing wrong with talking shit on mics anonymously. I see no problem with anonymously talking shit on the scene in general.
But if someone is going to target another comic specifically, they need to identify themselves specifically. That's all.
Basically, there are too many people walking away from these kinds of mics* saying the exact same thing, making the same complaints, making the same observations for the criticism to be completely without merit.
Sure, some of them prolly suck. Sure, some of them had unrealistic expectations. But we're talking about dozen upon dozens upon dozens of people, most of whom have never met each other, all making the same complaint about these mics.
It can't just all be in their heads.
And yet, that is exactly what some people would like you to believe. That 100% of these guys are bitter. That 0% of these guys are funny. That they're are all bitter and it's all in their head. If you don't like this mic, "you just don't get it, maaaaaaan."
So you are trying to say there arent dozens and dozens of shitty open micers who have no place doing comedy in the first place, because if that is what you are saying sir, you are sorely misguided.
DeleteThis is the best thread I've ever read in my life. Very fun way to waste my work morning.
ReplyDelete-Christie Walsh
This place turns out comics who only find each other funny. They'll never see the inside of a comedy club. Ever.
ReplyDeleteIf you're a pro comic stay away from here. Same thing for pro jocks. The soft bellies and bottoms of these doughy "men" is deplorable. PROS NEED NOT APPLY.
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